22 Creedmoor may not be useful for PRS since velocity is limited at a maximum of 3200 fps, and most guys using 6mm are using heavier bullets and still getting around 3050-3100 fps. You must log in or register to reply here. Learn how your comment data is processed. We took the different bullet and powder combinations and loaded them up to the SAAMI Maximum Average Pressure (MAP) for the 6.5 Creedmoor and 6 Creedmoor cartridges, which is 62,000 psi. The gun is going to wear a 24 inch 1-7 twist criterion barrel. Higher FPS and/or a heavier projectile will make more force and give beter results. All at once there was the crack of a fast-moving bullet almost crossing straight down the draw we were covering. However, we think that the cartridge is better suited for lighter 65-80 grain bullets. Relatively slow-burning powders were chosen to accommodate the .22 Creedmoors overbore dynamics, leaning heavily on temperature stable formulas and/or those with de-coppering agents when possible. You heard that correctly. Hunting the White River country in central South Dakota presents its own set of problems in terms of locating coyotes that are in gunning range. Both sets of rounds were fired in our lab, using our universal receiver, which has a 24 barrel. If you watch the video carefully, you will see that the bullet completely opens up the rockchuck, causing immense damage, killing it instantly. The ability of the heavy .224 bullets to retain both velocity and energy at long distances makes this cartridge a realistic deer and varmint rifle. TMKs shoot good in all rifles I've tried. Along with his reloading dies, he also produces reloading tools and custom rifles. Cache Carlson New casings were used for both tests. In particular, their 77 Gr SMK, 80 Gr SMK, 90 Gr SMK, and 95 Gr SMK are great. Please download a browser that supports JavaScript, or enable it if it's disabled (i.e. Although we were able to gather pressure and velocity data in our lab, we have not tested these loads for accuracy. This rockchuck was huge and obviously spent his life gorging on the pasture grass where the ranchers cows grazed. Return to tradition with the Core-Lokt ammunition . The other that stands out, is at 6:32 in the video. I currently have H-1000, H4831SC,and Retumbo on hand, as well as federal 210-m primers and virgin Hornady 22 Creed brass. Leaning toward the more conservative number of 1300 ft-lbs, the same 22 CM bullets combinations are good out to 300- 400 yards. The results were interesting to say the least. Start low and work up. Andy Moe So does having a higher FPS help when it comes to semi auto pistols and rifles? Improved Military Rifle IMR 7828 SSC. I have been thinking about rebarraling it to a 6 or 6.5 creedmoor to make a long range varmenter. The powder seemed to build up pressure for no apparent reason. The 6.5 Creedmoor with 142 SMK and 17 barrel shot inside the 308 Winchester 175 SMK 22 barrel out to 1,000 yards. In addition to our data sheet, we have included a few of these loads, complete with their associated pressures and velocities, below. There is a simple reason why. The Creedmoor gets its longrange performance reputation from a combination of 140- to 143-grain, high B.C. Glen R. Shaffer Increasing that charge to 42 grains resulted in 3,443 fps, but a larger .66-inch group with a slightly lower extreme velocity spread. Here are five Cooper Creek options with Sierra and Berger bullets: In addition, multiple companies are now selling 22 Creedmoor cartridge brass: Alpha Munitions, Atlas ADG, Hornady, and Peterson Cartridge. Along with more than 25 other calibers, Peterson Cartridge now offers casings in 6.5 Creedmoor, 6 Creedmoor, .25 Creedmoor, and .22 Creedmoor. John Whidden produces some of the most precise and well-built custom reloading dies you can purchase. var _gaq = _gaq || []; The group measured .26 inch center-to-center. As you can see the CCI Stinger Ammo has a higher initial muzzle energy but at 200 yards the Remington Golden Bullet 36 gr has a much higher kinetic energy and more killing power at that distance. Bullet Choices for 22 Creedmoor Chances are, cleaning frequency is 25-35 roundsand I hope you have a bore scope! I wouldn't recommend h1000. Each of the below loads are over pressure. @220yotekiller A 22 cheetah is a fringe cartridge in comparison. J Jfal Professional 22-250 Remington is its name, and speed is its game: This .22 caliber rifle cartridge boasts a muzzle velocity that can exceed 4,000 fps. At the time of this writing, the .22 Creedmoor is still considered a wildcat cartridge since it has not yet been formally adopted by the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI). One of the benefits of a cartridge being standardized by SAAMI is that manufacturers who publish loading manuals will begin publishing load data for the new cartridge. energy at a recoil velocity of 12 fps. The bullet weight of CCI Stinger Ammunition is 32 grains; therefore its bullet weight is .07 ounces. Goodluck. Others have experienced the same thing saying it builds up a carbon ring in the barrel. These cartridges include (from left) the .22-250 Remington, .22 Creedmoor and .22-250 Ackley Improved. Only one of nine A-Tip loads printed groups larger than an inch, with one right at an inch. So, there's a plethora of good . Ammo Description Velocity (fps) Energy (ft/lb) Trajectory Tables (inches) CARTRIDGE BULLET ITEM # MUZ 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd MUZ 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd MUZ 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd M 223 Rem 68 gr. Add two grains of powder and velocity increases to 3,400 fps. The .22 Creedmoor (and this rifle especially) is a definite winner. As built by LRI,Long Rifles, Inc.out of Sturgis, S.D., the rifle is a turn-bolt tack driver set up very much like most upper grade long range rifles we see as custom-built field tools. 40-42grs will probably be your sweet spot. After the rifle was completed, Hegstrom requested ammunition to verify feeding and overall function. Up until now, that has not happened with the .22 Creedmoor. I expect terminal performance can only improve after boosting velocity 500 fps via the .22 Creedmoor. My obsessions lean heavily to burrowing rodents or predators willing to investigate the morbid cries of dying bunnies. Redding was kind enough to send us a full 3-die set for this reloading project. I have a 1:8 prefit coming in a couple weeks and need to get some bullets ordered. My first kill was in a rocky area out in the desert near an alfalfa farm, where the farmer was having issues with the rockchucks coming in and eating/digging up his chip potato field. I live in an area where hunting rockchucks is a short drive away, so on Saturday, June 6, 2020, I grabbed my .22 Killmore and my reloaded ammo and went out looking for some of these larger varmints! The Satterlee Arms builds are ultra-high-performance rifles. The best A-Tip group, a .38-inch one-holer, resulted from 40.5 grains of IMR-4828ssc at 2,926 fps (23-fps extreme velocity spread). . While this certainly can be used for PRS and tactical competition, the 22 Creedmoor seems to be ideally suited as a high velocity varmint round something to replace the 22-250. Smiths pet load for taking long range coyotes was a bit different from the 75-grainHornady ELDhandloads I had developed for my test rifles. So, it wasnt until the 6mm incarnation appeared that the Creedmoor name entered my orbit. He shot this water-filled aluminum can at 200 yards. Currently Cooper Creek has the most 22 Creedmoor loaded ammo varieties, with 17 different bullet options from 60 grains to 95 grains. Daniel Y More research brought me to Reloder 17 powder. This was resolved by modifying the magazine lips by slightly opening them (see image). Okay thanks. In addition to their rifles, F4 also sells AR15 receivers, handguards, barrels, and Nightforce optics. This is important when you create your own rounds, but even more so with wildcat cartridges, like the .22 Creedmoor. The bbl I have coming is an 8 twist, so the 95's are out of the question. In addition to the 6.5 and 6mm Creedmoor cartridges, now there's a new Creedmoor on the block, the .22 Creedmoor. Ramshot Hunter I didn't have enough room in my case to get what I wanted out of it as far as accuracy and low sd/es. Those loads also used the 80-grain Berger VLDs and are somewhat of a copy of Smiths handload. Fast-forward almost a year and this rifle has become my favorite rifle to take hunting. We hope the above data will help you shoot your .22 Creedmoor with greater confidence that the load you have developed to work in your rifle not only shoots great but is also at a safe working pressure. I had also discovered the .22-250 Ackley Improved closely mirrors the .22 Creedmoor (CM) dimensionally. The 22 Creedmoor's' standard is a 1-in-7/1-8-inch fast-twist barrel, combined with the increased case volume to push long and heavy .22 bullets at over at 3,450 feet per second. This takes place not with the Swifts lightweight 55-grain bullets, but heavy weights that run into the 75- and 80-plus grain weights. (a mix between hornady 22 creedmoor and gunwerks 22 creedmoor) All brass has been sized to 1.910" Primers- CCI Br-2 (LRP) All bullets have been seated .005 . The 308/175 SMK outperformed the 6.5 Creedmoor/ 142 SMK inside of 800 yards, however, at 1,000 yards the superior characteristics of the 142 SMK allows it to perform better. Also mag feeding of the Creedmoor case is far superior to the 22-250ai A 1:7" 22-250 with the 80.5 vld's is a great option too! Eld-x & m's shoot good in most but some guns hate them. It carried a special short chamber and, by the direction of Satterlee himself, I was told I could increase my power charge by two grains as the barrel is designed to take some added pressure. A 22 Creedmoor for deer will work as well as any 6mm or 6.5mm caliber, and sometimes even beter out at longer distances. My stock should be in next week then i'll give them a go and i can let you know. Imagine you were shooting a 220 Swift with a 50 grain bullet at 3,900 fps and a 22 Creedmoor with a 75 grain bullet at 3,500 fps. It is ready for varmints or predators, dealing with windy conditions or even pursuing pronghorn to deer-sized big game. The 22 Creedmoor is basically a factory-developed wildcat round by Hornady. The advent of the 6mm Creedmoor immediately had folks necking the hornady 6mm down to 22 cal and upon doing so found virtually the perfect case capacity for heavy weight .224 bullets. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to understand that this is going to be the start of something big in the ammunition development industry. (Photo: L.P. Brezny). Every spring, he invites me over to his place to do some rockchuck management. On the fresh snow, it was easy to observe them zig zagging along, but always heading at an angle toward Smiths call. H4350 is my go to powder on all 4 of my creedmoor. if you want more speed I'd go either ai or cm depending on how you feel about the above "benefits" We were fighting very strong winds, with gusts up to 35mph! A .498 G1 BC would make this an excellent long-range predator option. Yes sir. While doing my initial testing, I tried various powders, including Varget, IMR 4166 Enduron and H4350. For those i started at the Coal copper creek uses and moved all the way up to .010 off the lands. Loren Lunsford To my way of thinking, and also that of my associates who are worldwide-known custom gunsmiths, the consensus seems to be, "Why worry about light bullets in this cartridge when heavier bullets meet every possible need downrange regardless of the distance encountered?".