I comment on these forums because they are the only places offering the opportunity to, hopefully, bring awareness to those whore unfamiliar with this case and her unfair plight. Patricias phone bill showed no record of a call to Catasauqua that day, but police noticed she didnt make any calls at all from her house in North Carolina that day either suggesting she could have been out of state and used a pay phone to dial up the Katrinaks. As to her duration on death row, no: inference cannot be made as to her guilt as theres a woman with about the same time (Holberg) and another with almost as much. According to a Morning Call account from March 5, 1998: McIntyre leaned forward conspiratorially like someone trying to persuade another to tell a secret, lowered his voice and said: Heres what I want to know: After you killed Joann Katrinak, did you kill that baby or just leave it to die?. To prove it 110% rather than just 99% I dont know why they wouldnt retest the hair fibers etc. Andrew J Katrinak, 68. For more information governing use of our site, please review our Terms of Service. That poor child who grew up with no mom for absolutely no reason. Police slowly built a case against Patricia. Bully for you if youve read a lot and seen a lot: its meaningless to other posters and adds nothing to your argument for innocence. For the past two years, Patricia Lynne Rorrer was a watched woman. Its his hair (dirty blond and roughly 8 inches in length) that was found in Joanns hand. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. The fact that Joanne was found with a hair clutched in her hand that was inconsistent with both her and Patricia (that they conveniently didnt bother to test). Are you even aware there are judges, eminent writers, lawyers and TV personalities and countless other ordinary people all of whom steadfastly support her as being innocent and wrongly convicted. Detective Barry Grube found it odd that Andrew fixed the severed phone line before police examined it in essence tampering with evidence. Not normal folks obsessed ones do. I attack only those whove considered themselves not only judges on this case, but go on to vent their spleen aimed at a person who in my opinion is innocent of this crime, based on all Ive read and watched without fear of retaliation If they so freely attack someone in the most vicious way, why should they be off limits? If they were unable to get a DNA reading the first time, why the need for a second examination? Interesting points thanks for writing in (and, yikes, those poor deer that starve to death). So, if you feel you have to be critical of me, you should also bear in mind those hate-mongers and perhaps have a word with them too. More Local News to Love Start today for 50% off Expires 3/6/23, Kurt Bresswein | For lehighvalleylive.com, argued in Lehigh County Court that investigators mishandled DNA evidence, new information from the lab reports show the samples had no roots. And your attempt to draw a distinction between a fact and an opinion! Patricia defaulted on her mortgage and then returned to North Carolina, where she eventually moved in with a boyfriend named Brian Ward. The state made a case fueled by circumstantial evidence and public outrage over the deaths of a modern-day madonna and child. Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner. She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. Your somewhat convoluted explanation of discuss and express opinion, seems to ramble on and on without any logic or reason. No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! Hege described Rorrer as savvy and street-smart and similar to other horse lovers he knows. Facebook gives people the power. In TV clips, Andrew didnt come off as anguished. Patricias professional life included short-lived gigs as a Century 21 real estate agent and an Oldsmobile salesperson. I saw lots of her defenders saying that he got the hairs from a hairbrush of hers that he had somehow saved, which I thought was absolutely ridiculous. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. As to blood splatter, at a far enough distance, a .22 isnt going to leave much blood splatter, and there probably wont be an exit wound, it will just bounce around the skull, and you dont have to make someone bleed to beat them, and several months in the elements is plenty of time to wash away some evidence as well, although luckily not all. The difference between the cases was that the child was not injured and the individual wrote down the details of the plan in a notebook, but otherwise it seems extremely similar to me. Yes, documentaries probably do misrepresent evidence, and many may respond to that misrepresentation, but beneath that is jury judgment, and while courts can be wrong they are usually right. Her daughter, Andrea Bruner, 14, baby-sat for Rorrer's baby daughter last fall. She had a history of violence over men, and she had access to the dump site from frequent visits. I dont think so. Its patently clear you are another of those who knows too little about this case. All rights reserved (About Us). False. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. . Im sorry for the distress this awful business must have caused. According to a police affidavit, Rorrer called the Katrinak house in mid-December 1994. She should have been treated exactly the way she treated that mother and baby, taken out into the woods, shot, beaten and then left to die. There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. American mom living in Paris mesmerizes internet after revealing the VERY surprising after-school snack kids eat in France. This is not a health issue to be taken lightly and all due diligence is being made to make sure he gets the best medical care that is available to him., The influencer has made appeals against his detention since his arrest. Police say Rorrer put a .22-caliber bullet in the mother's head, strangled the baby and placed him in the dead mother's arms. There is no justice for your loved ones when the wrong person is paying for the crime. Incriminating words. It seems so, according to you. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? The author that wrote the book on the Rutier case donates all the funds from that book to freeing Darlie Routier because the jury wasnt shown a lot of evidence of the medical issues Darlie suffered. If there was more talk about finding this .22 mm gun then that would solve all of this speculation. Thank you, this is a very interesting comment. Calling her ex because she just likes to stay in touch w peopleLOL! The 36-year-old former kickboxer and his brother have been imprisoned in Romania since late December on suspected rape and human trafficking offences. Although the prosecution used it as evidence that she was trying to create a false alibi, it actually sounded more like Patricia was simply trying to nail down the facts he had already asserted to her. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. ``She told me she was praying about it.'. ``They let 'em know who's boss.'. Police believe Rorrer abducted and killed her ex-boyfriend's wife and infant son in Pennsylvania. I dont understand Partricias defenders pointing to Andrew with the dyed blond hair found at the car and murder scene. After her arraignment, she had to walk past a crowd of dozens of locals screeching hang her! and baby killer! Patricia clung to a Polaroid picture showing her and her own little girl. How so? After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. I didnt read anything in this article that convinced me I didnt like that the lab had a bad rep and I do agree the police lie and frame people sometimes so I cant say 100% she did it or not. Which explains why she made Joann kill the baby, or suffer from the environmental elements. If the answer is no, enough said! Youre absolutely right!! They would have no reason to protect Andrew and lie on her. Prosecution leader McIntyre, when interviewed, laughingly dismissed him as a nut in an effort to trivialise Traupmans input. Andrew Katrinak said he found his basement door ajar and removed from its hinges, and a phone line had been cut. so then using your contention, one who is deeply religious and sees God as being a factual figure is wrong? Sad discovery. How do you know this woman wasnt obsessed with him and wanted his wife out of the way? And she will have to answer eventually. Get up-to-the-minute news sent straight to your device. A-list trainer shares the ultimate do's and don'ts of workout etiquette - revealing why you should NEVER use a metal water bottle, Trump collaborates with January 6 prison choir in release of new single 'Justice for All' - which dropped ahead of his CPAC appearance, King Charles will offer Prince Harry and Meghan a Buckingham Palace apartment when they visit UK after kicking them out of Frogmore Cottage. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. Perhaps that would lessen your fright. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? John If you feel it so necessary to post a comment, please at least try to keep it original, because theres nothing sensible with your juvenile attempt using my words. Justice is about uncovering the truth. Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? Media galore. They were there in the winter months in which the bodies would have been frozen most of the time. Dance defense. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. Andrew Katrinak (6 matches): Phone Number, Email, Address - Spokeo When she stood trial that same year, she maintained her innocence and alleged that she and Andrew Katrinak had continued to stay in touch as good friends, so she wouldn't do anything to hurt him. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. Mrs. Katrinak's husband, Andrew, reported his wife and son missing in December 1994 after they failed to show up at his mother's house. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. Not gender neutral. I deduced my opinion to be fact because of what Ive read and seen and is supported by evidence which was never disclosed at her trial. Patricia Rorrer Now: Where is Joann and Alex Katrinak's Killer Today Crying and distraught, she asked him to get in touch with her boyfriend, Ward and ask him to bring her extra underwear and socks. After all, justice has been served in the eyes of the law, so why go on demonising her? As for the words exchanged on the call between the two big-haired women, Joann told Andrew that Patricia had used profanity; Patricia said it was the other way around. The 5-foot-9-inch-tall Patricia was physically strong, no match for 5-foot-4-inch Joann. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. The authorities charged her with two counts of murder. Neighbors saw police cars in her driveway and acquaintances heard rumors about her previous boyfriends.The intrigue peaked Tuesday at 5:50 a.m., when deputies and Pennsylvania State Police surprised and arrested Rorrer, 33, at home. Or did they? You are not expressing an opinion but making an assertion or claim of fact: [I] have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. You are claiming innocence as fact there is no doubt shes innocent. Women like Barbara Stager who killed her husband in Durham NC. The bodies of the mother and son were found in April 1995 in a rural, wooded area 15 miles from home. I believe in Patricias innocence and she deserves to be freed, at last! 2 Lehigh Valley murder cases explored this week on TV Tragedy also touched Patricias life. Thank you and well said. A Patent Pending People Search Process. Search by Name Search . She should have received the death penalty imo. Her diary certainly indicates some disturbed thinking. Other loyal friends and associates attested to Patricias kindness toward horses and devotion to her daughter, whom she took along as she worked in stables. You, however, consider your ill-informed opinion superior to them not only that, you then go to great lengths to belittle them. Teresa Jean Katrinak, 56 - Loveland, CO - Has Court or Arrest Records But I agree with a recent comment.. Why not do a paternity case so just that is done and out of the way. But Im sure that was just a coincidence LOL. Prince Andrew demands mansion 'fit for a king' as top royal Its never been made clear. Traupman died in 2016. Police said the couple moved in together and had a 1-year-old baby daughter. That, as well as measurements of the babys head (revealing the infant to be of a more advanced age) very much suggest they were killed some considerable time after what was believed at her trial. Let me ask youWhy do most of those who post adverse and hateful comments feel the need to? They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. They were not reported until 5:30 the next morning and he had already spliced the phone lines together. They also revealed that the Duke had pleaded with the King for an increased Royal responsibility as he feels 'he deserves to still be treated like a senior royal'. I also communicated with Patricia via email to get her input on some matters. If documentaries are, as you claim, biased against Rorrer, the obvious question is why. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! You may not use our site or service, or the information provided, to make decisions about employment, admission, consumer credit, insurance, tenant screening or any other purpose that would require FCRA compliance. Are you even aware theres a strong suspicion that evidence of the hair, which was DNA matched to her, was tampered with? In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. neither her nor there couldnt be linked to her. For goodness sake, it was never proved at her trial she used the gun the police so steadfastly offered as evidence or for that matter, ANY OTHER GUN. Another point is the theory developed by the cops that the victim (Joann) was shot just one time and then bludgeoned to death. Personal details about Andrew include: political affiliation is unknown; ethnicity is Caucasian; and religious views are listed as unknown. Andrew Katrinak in Colorado - Spokeo Another witness, Walter Traupman, who never testified, had told state troopers that on the day of Joanns disappearance, he saw a couple who looked like Joann and Andrew arguing about the paternity of a baby. This woman was motivated by an obsession with a man who no longer wanted her. When Joann Katrinak and the baby didn't show up for a planned afternoon of Christmas shopping on Dec. 15, Katrinak called the police. Joann Katrinaks Killer Still Has Innocence Advocates(A Woman Scorned, Forensic Files). Pal stays true. Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. All 3 of her alibis were lies, DNA tied her to the murder, there was no sexual assault, she had a violent past, was obsessed with Andy, and was caught lying about owning a gun, which coincidentally jammed after firing once and shell cases were found on her property. Im quite happy to accept that ANYONE who makes a TV documentary makes it for money. She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. The entrance to the Lehigh County Courthouse at 455 Hamilton St. in Allentown is seen in November 2011. The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three.